Bad Conduct ,as they see it?

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Student Charged w/Disorderly Conduct for Wetting Pants

Boy what a mess autism has become and I'm sure long term readers will think I'm on a "broken record" again But If Modern Autism would Care to listen and unite and learn from our anthropology they will be shocked to learn many of us had toileting issues like this in our lives and well and the reason for them and our cures have never even hit the radar of the "professionals" They only see Autism from the Top down we see it from the inside out.

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Many of the people in our Temple Grandin style anthropology including yours truly had many issues for a long time with tolieting I was beyond 1st Grade before I could do my duties reliably and on que. A lot of what we go threw is we need to "LEARN" when it is time to go since we don't feel pain like normal people do we often are "bursting" or ready to by the time our bodies tell us "go." It seems we don't get a gentle clue from our body it is just more like an all of a sudden type of thing. Most of learned how to gauge our needs or simply go every so often even though it doesn't fell like we need to.

If Normal People knew or appreciated what it is we need to do to communicate and they took into consideration our natural shyness they would realize we are trying VERY hard to tell someone we need to go but typical normal people will not give us the chance to talk so we miss the opportunities. PLUS since we are so shy about things like that we would LOVE to be the only one in the restroom, and if so, we could do much better alone than with a group.

This poor gal might simply have to go SOOOO bad that she cannot hold it any longer and thus movement or even a deep breath or bending over might let her loose it. You would loose it too if you had to go like we do before we figured out our own system.

So in a nutshell we don't get the reliable physical signals you think we do and then communication wise were at another disadvantage as no Autism Professional has figured out or cared to figure out our everyday thoughts are different than you ever imagined.
Naturally, on the surface it look like this poor girl is causing trouble on purpose but she probably isn't..... Those of us missing the Modern Curse of Rain Man Era Autism were able to better figure out our thoughts AND we had the chance to learn our body signals. Modern autism is 3 steps backwards in many regards. Our Double-blind experience is probably too embarrassing to the Modern Autism Folks so they figure they best let sleeping dogs lie.

I read the following post and kind of shake my head in disgust at new autism, our anthropology has a wonderful explanation we learned via trial and error and real life but yet our success in this necessary function of life doesn't even flip the switches of an Autism Professional that probably operates from the ideal we are group home only material and thus not even worth a sneeze. For those in the Autism Spectrum PLEASE urge the ASA and others to investigate all of Autism not just the "happy parts".

Here is the Post

Rich Shull,,,, http://prerainmanautism.blogspot.com/

The "best autism book ever" ALAN TURING: The Enigma By Andrew Hodges Simon and Schuster New York. Copyright 1983 Related Item PBS-BBC show entitled Breaking the Code by Hugh Whitmore, based on The Enigma.



Message 3 in DiscussionI don't think wetting is a disorderly conduct even if it were on purpose. She need a fair trial and lawyer on this defense. The opinion "deliberately" is pure opinionated. For example: Tommy hits Johnny in the baseball field. This is out right wrong to take Tommy without questioning about why he did it aren't justifiable. School official need to keep their opinion to themselves and let the parent handle it. They wrongfully called the police and maybe not notified the parent. This is our school system in America. I hates it. As for the disorderly conduct, I think she should be not guilty even if she is responsible. Here the latest news article and my reply in BOLD.... “It was a mistake to bring police into a case of school discipline,” Superintendent Steve Keifer said Thursday. THAT RIGHT! Parent is suppose to be the authority not the SCHOOL. “I think the situation was one where the parents and school officials were frustrated, and that’s why it was done,” Keifer said. “At the same time, it was probably not a good idea.” Who care Keifer! You weren't there to witness it! The girl, whose name was withheld by the newspaper, had worked with her classmates and teachers preparing a holiday lunch at Danville Middle School on Dec. 20. The girl was later told to wash some pots and pans, her mother said. What for? Did a name was drawn from a hat or something? After she refused, teachers summoned principal Kevin Duckworth, who confronted the girl. She then wet her pants.Her mother said the girl is terrified by Duckworth and has wet herself during previous confrontations with him. She said her daughter has had disciplinary problems at the school but has never become violent. Poor girl she was afraid of getting rape!School officials dispute those claims, saying the girl has assaulted staff and uses urination as a “weapon.”BOGUS! Duckworth said the decision to call police was made in consultation with the girl’s parents, in hopes it would improve her behavior. He said it appears the mother later regretted the decision. You saying that the mom have no problem with the big fat "Disorderly Conduct" in her criminal record? “I think to bring a 12-year-old girl into the criminal justice system, when there are better alternatives, it makes better sense to just let the school district handle it with the child and parents,” Buehner said. It depend. The case against the daughter has been dropped. As for the school system, parent with autistic child need to watch out for them. -----------------------------------------------------------


Rich Shull,,,, http://prerainmanautism.blogspot.com/

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