Socially Autistic 2nd post
BLOG NOTE: This quote from The Enigma will be one of the most important in explaining Autism and Social skills and indeed go the furthest in explaining the fine difference between a Savant and a village Idiot.
Posts and quotes from the book: ALAN TURING: The Enigma By Andrew Hodges
Simon and Schuster New York. Copyright 1983
Related Item PBS-BBC show entitled Breaking the Code by Hugh Whitmore, based on The Enigma.
Page 371
"Robin was rather surprised that Alan was so forthright, for if obliged to give an opinion at Hanslope, he would have said Alan did seem more drawn toward men, but that he was probably too shy and inhibited to do anything about it. The truth made Alan less austere and more fun. Alan in turn was very pleased that Robin should understand him so well, and with that out of the way, there was nothing (except Bletchley Park) that that could not talk about, weather of science or gossip."
From Rich,
This is probably where the "autistic Alan Turing" met the real world and in a prime example of our GLBT social group and being 'forced' into to a deep relationship that made him the man he was in the end. If Alan were not Gay this aspect of his autism social skills, the double blind experience would not have NOT included this intense social training. Those of us before and after Alan that also had the GLBT experience to aid in our social development had what has proven to be, the ultimate autism Social skills training. Honestly, who would have bothered being friends with him without an intense social connection like this?
Bletchley Park let it be known was the "Top Secret" place that Alan worked (one of) during and after the war where he worked on his Turing Machine (I.E. Computer)
I can only guess his friend Robin and a few others in his close circle of friends had to endure a lot of Alan type things that other people he ran across might "already have known." They might have had to literately tell him how to make a comment, tell him he was too loud, perhaps they had to ask him what he was talking about? Asking him that would had turned out to be a great thing for Alan as he would have had to "figure 'out his picture thoughts and 'translate' them in to words. This experience was Vital to overcoming Autism like we have done.
Granted all Aspies have social experiences but ours were concerned with identifying ourselves something traditional populations never have to worry about. (Every one assumes your straight) Intense GLBT coming out companionship especially in this homophobic era was the very core of making Alan or any of us, for that matter an acceptable friend, CO worker and sometimes a pretty cool person. Traditional Friendships between traditional populations would have missed the coming out, conversations and the intense friendship developed with people that other wise would not have cared to know you.
Without this experience, Alan might have indeed been (if he was known at all) a Savant like Rain Man. His Computer and Math gifts would have been irresistible from a professional standpoint and if he were straight without the GLBT experience he would have still been seen as a genius but NOT a social loving person. That is why I have said so many times on this blog, we fill in the BLANK between the Savant and the village Idiot. Too bad most of us are Gay (LBT) or the so called "Professionals" in Psychology and autism would be beating the door down trying to figure out what we have done and how it relates to the very basics of Mankind's thought process. Before I came out, I was well liked in Autism Circles but the Red Carpet rolled up and doors slammed shut rather quickly after coming out.
Please BE KIND to your autistic loved ones, I have talked to many of them via Private Email that have come out to me but can't come out to their parents etc. Parents and many professionals were never even given the option a child they raised could "gasp" be GLBT. Those writing me from Group Homes are sometimes in a pickle as well, as sometimes the policy of a group home is too protective or simply too homophobic. I have been cussed out many times by the staff of some group homes just for simply corresponding with one of their consumers. I have seen many friends I have met over the years go from "group home" material to pretty cool just simply experiencing their true identify and connecting it with autism. The Straight aspies I met from this blog are usually very gay friendly and lots of them had a gay parent or brother or sister. Some are in computer and science professions and homophobia is less likely in those professions.
Our double-blind experience is one NOT shared by the general autism population and the best of autism professionals are all too homophobic to even talk to us. I wonder that if someday many of us maybe as many as 60% of the total Autism Population will turn out to GLBT? Sadly, we do so well, the researchers don't even consider us Autistic. There is FINE line between a group home and poor behavior and doing what we do.
You would think the Autism Society of American and the Autism Research Institute and many others piddling away taxpayer dollars and donations would jump at the chance to see why we fill in the blank between the Savant and the group home? They obviously don't care about autism or if your kid ends up a zombie in a group home. There is more than one side to a Savant-you only know Rain Man and they based all of autism 'knowledge' on that.
Sincerely,
Rich Shull,,,, http://prerainmanautism.blogspot.com/
Posts and quotes from the book: ALAN TURING: The Enigma By Andrew Hodges
Simon and Schuster New York. Copyright 1983
Related Item PBS-BBC show entitled Breaking the Code by Hugh Whitmore, based on The Enigma.
Page 371
"Robin was rather surprised that Alan was so forthright, for if obliged to give an opinion at Hanslope, he would have said Alan did seem more drawn toward men, but that he was probably too shy and inhibited to do anything about it. The truth made Alan less austere and more fun. Alan in turn was very pleased that Robin should understand him so well, and with that out of the way, there was nothing (except Bletchley Park) that that could not talk about, weather of science or gossip."
From Rich,
This is probably where the "autistic Alan Turing" met the real world and in a prime example of our GLBT social group and being 'forced' into to a deep relationship that made him the man he was in the end. If Alan were not Gay this aspect of his autism social skills, the double blind experience would not have NOT included this intense social training. Those of us before and after Alan that also had the GLBT experience to aid in our social development had what has proven to be, the ultimate autism Social skills training. Honestly, who would have bothered being friends with him without an intense social connection like this?
Bletchley Park let it be known was the "Top Secret" place that Alan worked (one of) during and after the war where he worked on his Turing Machine (I.E. Computer)
I can only guess his friend Robin and a few others in his close circle of friends had to endure a lot of Alan type things that other people he ran across might "already have known." They might have had to literately tell him how to make a comment, tell him he was too loud, perhaps they had to ask him what he was talking about? Asking him that would had turned out to be a great thing for Alan as he would have had to "figure 'out his picture thoughts and 'translate' them in to words. This experience was Vital to overcoming Autism like we have done.
Granted all Aspies have social experiences but ours were concerned with identifying ourselves something traditional populations never have to worry about. (Every one assumes your straight) Intense GLBT coming out companionship especially in this homophobic era was the very core of making Alan or any of us, for that matter an acceptable friend, CO worker and sometimes a pretty cool person. Traditional Friendships between traditional populations would have missed the coming out, conversations and the intense friendship developed with people that other wise would not have cared to know you.
Without this experience, Alan might have indeed been (if he was known at all) a Savant like Rain Man. His Computer and Math gifts would have been irresistible from a professional standpoint and if he were straight without the GLBT experience he would have still been seen as a genius but NOT a social loving person. That is why I have said so many times on this blog, we fill in the BLANK between the Savant and the village Idiot. Too bad most of us are Gay (LBT) or the so called "Professionals" in Psychology and autism would be beating the door down trying to figure out what we have done and how it relates to the very basics of Mankind's thought process. Before I came out, I was well liked in Autism Circles but the Red Carpet rolled up and doors slammed shut rather quickly after coming out.
Please BE KIND to your autistic loved ones, I have talked to many of them via Private Email that have come out to me but can't come out to their parents etc. Parents and many professionals were never even given the option a child they raised could "gasp" be GLBT. Those writing me from Group Homes are sometimes in a pickle as well, as sometimes the policy of a group home is too protective or simply too homophobic. I have been cussed out many times by the staff of some group homes just for simply corresponding with one of their consumers. I have seen many friends I have met over the years go from "group home" material to pretty cool just simply experiencing their true identify and connecting it with autism. The Straight aspies I met from this blog are usually very gay friendly and lots of them had a gay parent or brother or sister. Some are in computer and science professions and homophobia is less likely in those professions.
Our double-blind experience is one NOT shared by the general autism population and the best of autism professionals are all too homophobic to even talk to us. I wonder that if someday many of us maybe as many as 60% of the total Autism Population will turn out to GLBT? Sadly, we do so well, the researchers don't even consider us Autistic. There is FINE line between a group home and poor behavior and doing what we do.
You would think the Autism Society of American and the Autism Research Institute and many others piddling away taxpayer dollars and donations would jump at the chance to see why we fill in the blank between the Savant and the group home? They obviously don't care about autism or if your kid ends up a zombie in a group home. There is more than one side to a Savant-you only know Rain Man and they based all of autism 'knowledge' on that.
Sincerely,
Rich Shull,,,, http://prerainmanautism.blogspot.com/
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