Picture Thoughts= film strips
For those that know Temple Grandin's Thinking in Picutres she talks of STILL and MOTION picutre thoughts. These Autism Thoughts are the keystones in very basic Autism. These thoughts as all autism thoughts take place during our lack of eye contact.
Our OPTIC VISION IS OFF hence the lack of eye contact .
We Think we See real optic vison but we see instead BRAIN generated images that are very close to real vision. Once we discover we have TWO types of Vision and one is actually Picutre Thoughts that we are supposed to think with we can FINALLY seperate the two and think the way we are programmed and then mimic your thoughts. These thoughts are best thought of as simple Day Dreams. If you have ever tried to tell others of your dreams you know the trouble that can be, there is just too much information there to digest let alone explain. Picture Thoughts like your Daydream need refined and explaind and indeed they are Einstein Quality and successfull Autism people have learned to water down those thoughts to a normal level. The picutre memory many aspie have is directly related to this picutre thought. The character Rain Man in the famous movie was simply reading the Phone book with his photo memory.
ADD to Temples work the picutre in picutre thoughts and 3 and 4 deminsion thoughts and we complete the autism course and YES! normal thoughts are the result. Autism is the building blocks of the mind all figured out! It runs the gambit from Sublevel thoughts to masterpiecie thoughts associated with Einstein.
Picutre in Picutre Thoughts allow us to keep or OPTIC vison on and still think in Picutres and the result is we can finally catch a ball , give eye contact, and read body language. (and allows us to be really good drivers)
3 and 4 deminsion thoughts are pure computer and in fact it might take a big super computer to keep up with our Picutre thoughts. For Example I have Invented the Turing Motor a 70% Efficient Green Motor and I have over 1500 working motion picutre drawings of it in my head, I have hundreds of drawings of its parts all sorted out. These thoughts not only my motor but everyday 3 and 4 deminsion thoughts constitute the most of autism thoughts and until we learn to WATER THEM DOWN and break out of our Obessions we don't present like much.
These Thoughts have never been in a book before, they are invisable to the average person or Autism professionals would have had a clue to what it is we have done. They will add another 1000 chapters to the Psychology books and they explain everything from Einstein to Dyslexia to stuttering and even abilities and disabilities. These are indeed the little one by one thoughts that build to from one normal thought.
The Good news is Autism the Rest of autism could be taught to our Aspie Students and we could create a 1-6 th grade Aspie School that would teach us these very thoughts and I bet 98% of us could then be mainstreamed! Autism Really Is Simple IF you know what its about. As Einstein said," if you can't Explain it simply you don't know what your talking about." Autism as is might only teach us (by pure luck) 30 % of what we need to know. It is not for the fact lot of very nice dedicated people are not trying it is from the fact they don't know what to teach and no one ever dreamed the thought procress is invisable. That makes it so hard to teach.
Not only me but many more like me that build On Temple's Work all came up with the SAME autism Thoughts ignorant of each other. No matter what language we speak or country we are from we all developed Still and Motion Picutres and then Picutre in Picutre Thoughts and then 3 and 4 Deminsion thoughts (among others) . All of them add up to the finished Autism Course. We all were self taught and we figured out our own odd thought process. It that so logical? Unless you think with autism thoughts how can you figure out Autism or even know where to start?
PLEASE URGE Autism Peer reviewed professionals to talk to us admit to us- your childs (and Adults) Success stands to Improve greatly! So Far we have been ignored and our books that build on Temple's Thinking in Picutres have been banished. If our Thought process had been in a text book before we might have a better chance but "we just discovered it"... Rich Shull
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letstalk i am a very opened minded person and explore any possibility-this is very interesting-not understanding it totally yet. Posted 21 hours ago |
Rich Shull Try this,,,,, Your having a conversation with someone on flowers
Normally, you just go ahead and talk about flowers or a spcific flower you looking at, no big deal.
An Autisitc (off on a deep thought process)
We see the same flower you do with optic Vision (say a red rose)
The next thing that happens
Is our OPTIC vision is turned OFF you notice the lack of eye contact. Many aspies think their optic vision is on BUT it is really shorted out , The 'vision' we see is a brain generated picutre of the red rose. (VERY CLOSE TO THE OPTIC VISION) If that topic is of interest to us and we need to come up with words to do a conversation on that: The red rose becomes a full picutre thought.
Once it is a picutre thought our optic vison is still OFF . In Fact you could stick you tounge out at us give us a gesture etc. and we would miss it. The untraind aspie still thinks their vision is normal. We then have MORE brain generated images of flowers and roses, Perhaps I read a book on Red Roses at one time and I would see pages of that book and read them (like Rain Man read the phone book in movie) If It was a technical book I could tell you all kind of details on that rose. However over time I have learned to water down the thought to "nothing" to let the conversation flow.
Once the thought was complete normal optic vision would return and we would be just like you again. The total time for this thought might be a few milliseconds to a second or two. Really Serious deep thoughts like I use to design and build my Inventions can go on for hours. (leaving me dead tired). During that Time I can have 1000s of picutre thoughts of all types from Still and motion picutres to 3 and 4 deminsion ones (engineering type of things) . NOTE I Really have a craving for SALT after one session like that.
If I am to tell you a few facts on that rose like Aspies tend to do (weather you want to hear them or not) I have to start reading that page in my thoughts and converting the words to speach. That is easier said than done and often can 't be done before the conversation has moved on too far.
Basically Our Major Thoughts are brain generated and span from BELOW 123 and the ABC's on one side of the scale to Einstein on the other. In the MIDDLE streamlined for social purposes is normal thoughts. If you had to talk and think like we do life would not flow. Once we learn to reduce our thoughts to a fast streamlined version we can participate in life just like you want us to do. Once We Learn Picture in Picture thoughts we can keep optic vison on so we read your body language and we start being social.
A Few notes ALL of these thoughts are invisable to you and are signaled by the lack of eye contact
Since Picutre thoughts and Autism Thoughts work off each other attempts by traditional education sometimes work by happenstance
When We Think in picutres our hearing is turned OFF or at least way down, we only hear the slighest whisper or the loudest shout if were thinking with a brain generated picutre thought. Those noises WAKE us UP and get our optic vision turned on again sometimes just in time to keep us from walking into the path of a bus or off a cliff. My Blind Friends have the same hearing traits and often the same picutre thoughts ,espcially if they had vision at one time. We are after all Deaf and Blind during serious picutre thoughts. That explains a lot of Autism on its own being deaf and blind for a few milliseconds occasionally.
Most Autistc people have enough normal thoughts learned to get by but, if they were to flow and become "all they could be" they would need a course in Picutre thoughts. Many of us that built on Temple's Work figured out what it is we need to do while our optic vision is OFF.
Autism Like I talk about here is proven ,blueprinted and never in a text book before. It could be taught (and nearly was) in a grade 1-6 autism pre school that would teach us our picutre thoughts. Once we learn picture thought / normal thoughts are the result. If we resort back to picutre thoughts Einstein is very likely to emerage.
Savants like Rain Man are really just displaying one small area of their autism skills ,again give them the picture thought course and hone their thoughts and most of us could do a real life . On the filp side severely autistc people have great hope in these picture thoughts to as I see it . Autism starts below 123 and the ABC's and all they needed was a start that was on their level. Autism is the building blocks of the mind!
NONE of these thoughts have been in a text book before so no matter how well we do them there is NO peer review Autism or Psychology to support us. In fact autism doesn't even know the right questions to ask to get into our mind. (there heart is in the right place however) . Human nature is such the golden rule of research is there is no way the very "retard" being researched is able to figure out their own condition- or are we? Rich Shull
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kmdd22 Rich I really am trying to grasp exactly what you are expressing here and I have read the Thinking in Pictures book.I am familiar with several of Temple Grandin's books.Can you please suggest to me how I would go about teaching not only my son but other children I work with on spectrum who are quite young (4years-10 years)and some are of few verbal abilities the best way to build upon what you have mentioned here.ALL of the children i work with love the computer so would I do this using the computer as the tool?I really try to do the most I can so am willing to try anything you mention.Anything you suggest would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks Kris:) Posted 14 hours ago |
Rich Shull Hi Kris, I have been toying with this very idea for years now and for sure a computer simulation would be the very best way for autism thoughts to be "taught" exposed and figured out. I would love to be able to do just such a thing and perhaps if Autism research would unite all of us that have figured out rest of the thoughts we could come up with a good useable system.
I attempted it once with a You Tube Video (Search Rich Shull Autism On You Tube) and the results were dismal.
Since this entire thought process is new to mankind the usual ' releate it to something known' technique doesn't apply. Since it really doesn't compare to normal thought and is invisable to the average thinker ,it presents as even more of a trick. Even among Aspie that know what we are doing, we have discovered that none of us have the exact same picture thoughts, and that stands to reason as are all self taught.
Sadly, humans unknowingly instantly relate stuff to what they 'know' and feel and it is just human nature to assume the wrong things about the lack of eye contact eye thoughts we call autism. If you know the picutre thoughts we are trying to explain- that natural normal thinker assumption would be OK as you would have the background to know what to assume. Then in order for Autism to really shine we need to tap into our learning hallways and that requires us to fully embrace our Obession and splinter skills- Modern Autism just made them taboo so making them a necessary requirement for success is counter to approved autism "logic' .
I don't think man has really ever had an easy time discovering truly new ideas or someone would have discovered ours by now. But we are the only people programmed to think with picutres so it stands to reason we are the only ones to figure out the process. Plus just try to convince people MR/DD and Einstein Autism are just opposite sides of the same coin -That is a task of its own.
Meanwhile ALL you can do is WAIT ,if you see someone doesn't have eye contact they are thinking! Leave them alone! When Eye contact returns they are ready to proceed. Trying to tell them what to think is just going to confuse them and they will for the moment have to discover they have something different going on. I'm sure they will eventually realize their vison has been frozen or altered and was not current ,eventually when they do that; that triumpth will be 1/2 the battle. Meanwhile when we do talk Think Einstein NOT MR/DD we are working our way down to your level not up as we present. If an Aspie is confusing you with geek talk technical talk- think Geek and you might be shocked to discover were much smarter than we present. If were describing something think big ,think bold ,think complicated that is where our thoughts are comming from. Remember we are translating your dreams ,in so many words . If you have tried to explain a dream to someone you know the process is demanding. Now try do it quick and get it into a conversation . Good luck Rich Shull